Making a go of it

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Reith01
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Making a go of it

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This is a very modest layout compared to many here but one has to start somewhere. Measures 6' x 2'10" in the form of a folded 8.

This one is putting on styrene foam cut from bits used to pack domestic electronics.

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Below: Most of the modroc-ing/plaster is done. The track to the front will be lifted tomorrow to take advantage of
nutter's tip on isolating at the points. It's going to save cutting the track. As pieces of track are wired separately,
connection is no problem.

Well, I cross my fingers. The track has got somewhat dirty but at least I know it forms a continuous circuit.

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As a beginner I'll report problems and how I try to solve them, and will always be grateful for advice.
I have no 3D printer so buildings and bridges have to be made from wood, card/styrene sheet and DAS pronto. They'll take time no doubt.

Cheers,
Reith.
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Superb work .

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6' by 2'10 is anything but modest! Any chance of a track plan?

Look forward to following this!

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That's bigger than my 5' x 14" layout. It looks like you're making good progress on it. I'm looking forward to seeing more of it.
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Crikey, I got the dimensions wrong. It's 6ft x 1ft 10.

I hope I do better with measuring when it gets down to buildings, roads and things....!

I did most of the basic wiring under the board today, now awaiting a couple of points for the sidings.
I'm really not happy about these points. Not specially happy about making my own (because steel tracks will be difficult to solder) so once the "permanent way" is working near flawlessly I'll think about that mod of NoelDollimore's.
mattd10 wrote:6' by 2'10 is anything but modest! Any chance of a track plan?

Look forward to following this!
A little more modest now I've declared the right size. But it's just a single track with a station loop and a couple of sidings. No way as bold as some layouts in this forum. A learning experience. I'll take a snap of the track layout when I next have it upended.

cheers.

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This is quite an impressive start for a first layout, far bigger than my own 20" x 30". Do not forget that (if my maths does not fail me) a run of over 12' is a scale mile, which you will have easily achieved with your trackplan - just drop that in now and again to make modellers from larger scales really envious!

Hope the use of the points goes OK for you. I know other have got them to work, but for my first attempt I did not use them so just have one continuous run.

All the best with this, and do keep us updated on progress.
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Some progress. Included is a photo that shows the track. I took it to get a bigger picture of the plastering. It does need some work. The track is complete except for ballasting and sidings to go in the ‘corked’ area (top left). Well, they may…. I started to put in some roads and the base for an industrial site. These won’t need more treatment except smoothing/filling cracks/painting.

The bases for the main village have been cut out.

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The points problem won’t go away. I had hoped I wouldn’t need to mod chasses but may have to otherwise it’ll be just a single track and sidings that are decoration. Even the blades don’t conduct reliably. There is a further option which I dread to think about as the rail is steel. (It may look good though!) There’s also mechanising the points. I’ll experiment but this is bigger money and work so I’ve deferred it to push on with at least some of the scenery.

I’m also worried that the day the track expanded enough to bow may have altered the gauge enough to cause problems. Next time I have it running I’ll test difficult spots with a gauge.

Is it exactly 3mm?

Otherwise I started on street lights. The Eishindo ones are fine for main roads but side roads need something smaller, as does the forefront of a theatre thing I want to make. They need about 20 ‘globe’ lamps, hoping to use fibre optic but this gives variable results and it may come down to individual leds.

The photo shows an experiment with these lights. Unfortunately the exposure proved too long and, yup, camera-shake. The stands for these lamps are the fibre and when installed will give a height of 7mm, base to the top of the globe. The stands look too stout in the photo: they're 0.25mm - camera shake again. They’re all over the place in the photo as I was just testing if they worked. The one on the right is about the right height. I had to use the photoshop brush to wipe away some of the effects of camera shake but they do light up a bit! Not visible in the photo they cast some light on the ground.

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So...on we go...!
Any advice is always welcomed with thanks.

Ivor (aka Reith)

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I tried a number of techniques for the fiber optic pedestrian crossing lights (Belisha beacons) on mine - melting the ends, drops of glue, etc. By far the best results came from whittling the end of the fiber into a blunt point (a sort of square pyramid). Those facets spread the light out through 360 degrees. Also make sure that the LED end of the fiber is cut cleanly and squarely, and pointed correctly at the light-emitting part of the LED.

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martink wrote:I tried a number of techniques for the fiber optic pedestrian crossing lights (Belisha beacons) on mine - melting the ends, drops of glue, etc. By far the best results came from whittling the end of the fiber into a blunt point (a sort of square pyramid). Those facets spread the light out through 360 degrees. Also make sure that the LED end of the fiber is cut cleanly and squarely, and pointed correctly at the light-emitting part of the LED.
Thank you for that. I'll try that out. These were made by gluing the fibre to microbeads. The prop they're in is the jig I put together to make them.
A (slightly) better photo as I have daylight to film them:

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They weren't finished in the shot. The stands need painting up to the globe and a base has to be fitted for which I have some brass tube.

To adopt your system would seem better with beads having a threading hole so the fibre can sit in them. I'll have a look around for something. (It would make construction considerably easier.

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Ivor

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Over the weekend I did some extensive surgery on the scenic side. The scene wasn’t feasible when I thought about roads and a village. And I had to cut spaces beneath bases of the village to install electronics. A nice result was that some of the “rubble” that came from the hacking settled here and there on the board looking like boulders and real rubble so I glued them in.

Still having trouble with tracks. I’ve learned that my tracklaying is some way from perfect and the problem of points remains. I stuck the track down and there are still trouble spots so it means going over with a magnifier once the scenic plastering and paining are finished. Heaven know what if I have to pull any up so an experiment with cyano solvent is on the books.

One thing I’ve learned is getting the sequence right. I don’t think I did – laying the track + wiring first then building the scenery around it. Next time I’ll get the trackbed down then the scenery, tracklaying last. I didn’t plan enough. The scenic electrics have to be planned early too.
I did listen to/read a fair bit of advice but didn’t apply it properly it seems.

Some of the leds are going to be tiny. One has to be careful with those pre-wired 0402s. It isn’t that the soldering is bad but it doesn’t take much to pull the connection pad off the led with the wire – no surprise, it’s meant to be surface mounted, not wired! Maybe some of that solder glue will allow replacement of the pad.

But…we soldier on… almost said solder on….

Ivor (aka Reith)

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Progressing but discovering how much time it takes to get everything done. Partly it's bad logistics...waiting for an online order. That's fine when you can plan and order well in advance but it's the item you suddenly realise you need now!

But there're always things to do. The other time-consumer is the model-making itself. In this tiny scale everything has to be as clean cut as possible. I spent this afternoon making just one wall of a model bank. There's also a long retaining wall that had to be equipped with buttresses and treated with a plaster wash. Next stage on that will be painting it then installing lighting on some of the buttresses.

Reminds me that I have to order more blades. One does get through rather a lot.

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There were times one could pop down one's local model shop - almost an extinct species now.

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It's become logistics. Some electricals need sorting out before more work on the scenery.

There's a retaining wall, beneath it a road separating it from the station (still under construction). I wanted street lighting on the buttresses and tried out some of those tiny LEDs. The veroboard circuits are glued to the back. Sorry about the photo quality, this was more a test for general effect. The lights look far less dazzly outside the camera but I may just tone them down. Next it'll be the station platforms and their lighting.

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Making progress on the high street buildings.

I set up this pub/hotel to test the lighting. The building needs a bit more work but (needs a sign and panel in the space toward the right). I'm lighting only the front and ground floor (the bar is nicely dim - scale lumens!).
Here it's standing on its veroboard. There are 4 separate lamp circuits (maybe a 5th if I decide to light the top floor).

It seems a problem that has to be borne - some buildings will need electronics underneath. I got the best result for general light by setting it under the floor that has a tracing paper panel. That won't always be practical.

The scale can be compared - the wire looping out under the front is 0.25mm dia.

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I've done a few more and will set up the beginnings of a high street next.

(I hate these modern cameras. My old film one had split image focusing. Alas I'm told it would be very expensive on a digital camera these days. How can I afford trains and cameras??)

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This is looking good. You already have me replanning my high street to include lighting....
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NeilM wrote:This is looking good. You already have me replanning my high street to include lighting....
Thank you, Neil.

I won't be having everything lit up. Plans were for the station area and the main street facing the layout front (which will hold about 8 shops and commercial buildings - in spite of the scale there isn't so much space). Maybe a few others. Some of the houses I bought are solid and can't be lit so I may put up a few street lights.

I want to keep the built-up areas portable in case I have to scrap the original layout so the electrics will be integral to each sub-base.

That's the plan. But the best laid plans, etc!!

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