Pennsylvania 4-6-2 Steam Locomotive.

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JoeMalinchak
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Pennsylvania 4-6-2 Steam Locomotive.

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This is my first running prototype of my 4-6-2 TGauge Pennsylvania Steam Locomotive. It uses a 3.2mm motor for power. The motor is a hot one out of a Mini Vapor model airplane servo brick. I use them in my micro airplane designs. I have designed many model airplanes over the years, but designing a TGauge steam locomotive has been a challenging task. With the release of the steam wheels from TGauge.com I was very excited to start on this project. It has been in the planning stages for some time, but the project stalled as I was waiting for the release of the valve gear from TGauge.com. I also was not sure on what gears I was going to use and the right gear ratio for them. I want to thank Siegfried for his thread on his wonderful BR01 steam locomotive, and for the link to the company that sells the gears. I used the M0.15 gearwheels with 17 teeth, and the wormgear M0.15 1.6mm.

To construct the chassis frame I laser cut a material called Garolite. It is a thin fiberglass composite material.

I also made the tender frame out of Garolite, and I am using it to power the engine.

The body will be made using the same technique I use on my planes. I put in lots of time on the graphics and I am almost done with them. I made a test version that fits over my frame.

I still have lots of work to do on her, but I am really happy that she is running!

Joe.
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JoeMalinchak
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JoeMalinchak
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This is a sneak peak at my work on the body. It is just a prototype, and the final version will look much better!

Joe.
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Well if that doesn't inspire a whole load of people I don't know what will!! Awesome! :D

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Post by rail450 »

Hi Joe,

is it possible to get a tender frame set of laser cut Garolite ?

For my 1st running tests I want to use your tender.

BR,

Siegfried

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Hi Slarge,

I hope my work inspires people. I love pushing the limits on what can be done, and to inspire others to do the same.

Hi Siegfried,

I will be happy to cut you a set of my tender parts to use for your tests. I designed it to use the transmission bogie P-036-01. However, I can do one better. If you give me the dimensions of your tender, or a drawing I can cut one up that fits your locomotive. Send me an email at joemal@echoes.net

Joe.

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Incredible work! What more can I say!

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Wow oh wow !!! :D

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Post by Ozrail »

This makes me envious on so many levels. :oops:

Huge congrats to you. :)
Check out my Shapeways store for T-gauge stuff.
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very nice!!! :)

and makes me want to dust of some old projects.

thanks for posting.

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Guys, thanks for all the kind comments on my project, this is my latest progress.

I installed the spoked wheel covers, and the connecting rods using the rivets and the small caps from the TGauge.com valve gear sheet. Just by cutting the rivet it held the cap in place. However, I added the smallest drop of CA just to be sure it will hold up over time. Working with these small parts is insane work. I am calling it Extreme Steam Craziness.You need extra rivets and other parts as you are bound to lose some during assembly!

I also learned lots more from my tests with the 3.2mm motor. The rear magnets are very close to it, and seem to have an effect on the locomotives performance. I placed the magnetic rings from the rear wheels on my soldering iron for a few seconds, and that demagnetized them. Placed them back on the wheels, and the locomotive is running very well at this time. In fact I found that all the model really needs it two wheels with the magnetic rings to be efficient. I am using them on the center wheels on my first prototype, the other wheels have rings that are demagnetized. This is with the 3.2mm motor. The 4mm motor has more power and may work better with them. I plan on building a second model with a 4mm motor to test this out when I get time.

Hope this information helps.

Joe.
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Hi Joe,
did you place the steam wheels at the distance of about 5.1mm as shown in my construction?
Do the parts from the Valve Gear Set fit with this distance?

BR,

Siegfried

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Hi Joe,
is it possible for you to do your driving test with ONE driven pair of wheels only: the magnetic center wheels ?
BR,

Siegfried

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Hi Siegfried,

I moved the spacing out slightly so the valve set would fit. I was hoping that the extra gap would still give me enough gear mesh and it did. However, I think that your spacing may even work, but you would have to test it.

I did run it with only one driven pair of wheels, and she ran well. I would also like to mention that she ran with the three magnetic wheels attached. It really glues the engine to the track as you can run full speed and she would never come off the rails! My problem was after running for 30 minutes or so the engine was losing performance. I removed the rear magnetic wheels and she ran great again. I think with a 4mm motor I would go with two sets of magnetic driven wheels. The middle and the front ones. However, I would test this first. I was going to draw up a new chassis to fit the 4mm motor, but decided to give the 3.2mm motor a shot since I came this far with the project.

Joe.

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Post by rail450 »

Hi Joe,
my test of wheel spacing needs a new brass printout for each test.
pls, tell me your exact spacing - this will be verry helpfull ;)
BR,
Siegfried

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Hi Siegfried,

I used 5.25mm the exact hole spacing of the TGauge.com valve gear rod holes. The gears seem to run smooth at that spacing.

Joe.

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I had a little problem with my 3.2mm motor chassis after I installed the connecting rods. The wheels were slipping, and the rods were jamming. I tried gluing the wheels in with CA, and 5 minute epoxy without success. I had to build a new chassis, so I redrew my design for a 4mm motor, as I wanted a little more power. The 4mm motor just fits my Pacific Locomotive body. I want to mention that I used the TGauge.com axles, but the steam wheels do not fit into the holes. I had to drill them out to get them to fit, causing the wheels to slip. However, after I completed my new chassis I found a glue that worked well. I used a small amount of Gorilla glue.

I used 4 magnetic wheels on this version on the middle and front axles. The rear wheels have two demagnetized rings on the wheels. This chassis runs great with lots of power. I am using a 13ohm 4mm motor. I installed the connecting rods and simple valve gear. The model is a scaled down version of one of my favorite Zscale locomotives.

I also installed the front wheels!

Joe.
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This is a video of a test with the connecting rods installed.

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This video shows the model running with the 4mm motor and the connecting rods installed.

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Post by msimister »

Great stuff Joe, great stuff! I really didn't think it possible in this scale. Very impressive.
Cheers,
Malcolm

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